Galaxy Zoo Forum downtime

If you’re a regular user of the forum at http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/ you’ll notice that it’s currently offline. There’s been a sizeable server outage which has affected it (along with many other websites), and we hope it will be back up soon – but this outage is out of our control. We were actually already planning to transfer it to a new server anyway, and we were hoping to do this on Tuesday, although this downtime may unfortunately get in the way of our plans. If the forum does come back up in time, we may take it down for Tuesday in order to make this transfer, but it should be back up shortly after that. Please bear with us until we can get everything back up and running properly, we’re running around in our t-shirts and underpants to get this going!

Update: Forum is still down unfortunately, but the support staff at the hosting site are working hard to bring it back up. It looks like the transfer will be delayed – and hopefully we’ll be able to give some warning of any resulting downtime from that.

Update 2: (Wednesday morning) Unfortunately there’s been hardware issues as the support technicians tried to bring the server back up. They’re still working on bringing it back up – no estimate for when this will take place I’m afraid.

Update 3: (Thursday morning) We’re in the process of trying to reinstall the forum framework and content back on the original server. A temporary forum is in place. It is not organised in the same way and has a different theme to emphasise this fact, and no posts there will be retained (except maybe in rare cases).

Update 4: (Wednesday morning – 11th June) The disk holding the forum is with a data recovery team, but unfortunately they won’t be able to get anything off for approximately another week at the earliest.

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171 responses to “Galaxy Zoo Forum downtime”

  1. EricFDiaz says :

    Thanks, Edd. I figured it was something like that. I almost wrote to you yesterday, but then I thought you probably have enough on your hands. Might I just add that I really, really don’t like this server. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  2. Hanny says :

    Sure! And thanks for thinking about us addicts. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  3. Alice says :

    Anyone want to set up a spare blog in the meantime . . . ? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  4. Edd says :

    A spare blog? This one isn’t good enough? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  5. EricFDiaz says :

    Do you mean spare “forum”, Alice. Looks like we’ve started one. ;D

  6. EricFDiaz says :

    I can’t believe that I’m going crazy just because the forum is down.

    Question: Is the forum on a separate server than the rest of Galaxy Zoo?

    Question: How much of danger is there of information loss, if any, in the forum because of the outage?

  7. John Fairweather says :

    My stats website (www.statcounter.com) has also been down, for the same reason. I also had two attacks from Trojans and some unwanted e-mails, from ‘people’ who seen my profile – Galaxy Zoom profile?

  8. John Fairweather says :

    That’s Galaxy Zoo profile.

  9. GeoHani says :

    I guess I’ll have to spend my time at DNA-Zoo.org

  10. Alice says :

    I mean like a spare Cafe. Surely you don’t want that kettle and the guess-that-object-and-tune threads taking over this one . . .

    Just to cope with withdrawal symptoms . . . ๐Ÿ˜‰

  11. John Fairweather says :

    Ah, poor Alice…

    Watching MotorGP on BBC2 yesterday, there were banners over the track saying ‘Alice, Alice, Alice, Alice, Alice’.

  12. Thomas Jennings says :

    Oh well. Good luck with the transfer. I hope it goes smoothly for you. I’ll see you all soon. (I hope)

  13. EricFDiaz says :

    Maybe Waveney could build one, Alice. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  14. EricFDiaz says :

    I wonder if Galaxy Zoo forum withdrawal can be fatal. LOL ๐Ÿ˜‰

  15. Hanny says :

    Well Alice, how about some tea then? ;D

  16. Alice says :

    Oh dear, here we go . . . ๐Ÿ˜€

  17. EricFDiaz says :

    See…at least you have tea, Alice… ๐Ÿ™‚

  18. John Fairweather says :

    Anyway have a look at APOD, looks like some white stuff there, under the Lander.

  19. Hanny says :

    Well, you said the magic word first… ๐Ÿ˜Ž :p

  20. sysboy says :

    Here is some more info on the server problems:

    “This evening at 4:55pm CDT in our H1 data center, electrical gear shorted, creating an explosion and fire that knocked down three walls surrounding our electrical equipment room. Thankfully, no one was injured. In addition, no customer servers were damaged or lost.

    We have just been allowed into the building to physically inspect the damage. Early indications are that the short was in a high-volume wire conduit. We were not allowed to activate our backup generator plan based on instructions from the fire department.

    This is a significant outage, impacting approximately 9,000 servers and 7,500 customers. All members of our support team are in, and all vendors who supply us with data center equipment are on site. Our initial assessment, although early, points to being able to have some service restored by mid-afternoon on Sunday. Rest assured we are working around the clock.”

    The service guys are still repairing/powering on machines as we speak!
    http://service-update.theplanet.com/

  21. EricFDiaz says :

    I’m just curious about something. 8รž

  22. EricFDiaz says :

    :รž

  23. Alice says :

    Who’s going to be the first to ask “What’s everyone having for dinner?”?

  24. Hanny says :

    Erm… you? :p btw, the smilies are not the same here as on the forum… ah well… Truste! :-* ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜‰

  25. John Fairweather says :

    What does it mean ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation’? – Am I going to be deleted?

  26. Alice says :

    Anyone want some lemon meringue pie? ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

  27. Curtis W. Garrett says :

    Lemon Meringue Pie?!
    Oh, YES!
    The forum was down over the keekend, down tomorrow to
    change servers, I’ll be busy Weds thru Sat, don’t know how
    much time I’ll have to stop by the new and improved
    server location of the forum. Happy Birthday to everyone
    that’s having one. Like MacArther “I shall return.”

  28. EricFDiaz says :

    I want chocolate! Lot and lots of chocolate! ๐Ÿ˜€
    The thing is though, if this server is up and running they will not be able to make the transition to the new server. And the way things look right now, that’s probably not going to happen.

    I don’t think we would feel so helpless if we knew exactly what was going on. It’s curious, because we still have access to Galaxy Analysis and the databases, but without our little forum to exchange our thoughts we feel cutoff. And, even though many of us have never met each other in person, still we have ties to each other, and we really do belong to a community. Not that I don’t have other things to do in my life, but I am really feeling a real sense of loss and a certain amount of anxiety. And, I really cannot explain it. I guess Galaxy Zoo has become more of a part of me than I realized and everyday that the forum is down I feel like something essential is missing from my life. Even my wife has noticed a difference in me since the forum went down. She said that I’ve been more irritable in the last two days. I just need to talk about galaxies with like minded people. I guess I really am a junkie! Oh no! LOL ๐Ÿ˜€

  29. EricFDiaz says :

    I meant if the server ISN’T up and running by Tuesday they will not be able to switch servers. Sorry for the typo. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  30. EricFDiaz says :

    P.S. I think the smilies are cuter here than in the forum. LOL ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜‰

  31. EricFDiaz says :

    On a brighter note, at least I’ve had a chance to read some of the blogs. Looks like Chris is having a good time at the AAS conference in St. Louis. I really wish I could have made it to the conference. There just wasn’t enough advanced notice. Hopefully, next time. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  32. Stealth Raptor says :

    I was wondering what was happening. Oh well good luck with the transfer. It feels good being 21.

  33. elizabeth siegel says :

    Oh my!! Hope it works out ok. Miss everyone. talk at you all later then.

  34. EricFDiaz says :

    Welcome to the new “Just chat” thread in the new “Cafe” sticky in the new makeshift forum. ๐Ÿ˜€

  35. Kevin says :

    Hi guys, as you can see, this outage has hit not just Galaxy Zoo, but other sites as well. Let’s hope this is resolved soon!

  36. Hanny says :

    Good morning! ๐Ÿ˜‰ So, an update? Can you move it today or did it still not came back?

  37. Edd says :

    ‘Is the forum on a separate server than the rest of Galaxy Zoo?’
    Yes
    ‘How much of danger is there of information loss, if any, in the forum because of the outage?’
    All the data should be safe, as far as I know.

  38. EricFDiaz says :

    It was carried off by a tornado, Hanny…the entire server I mean. I’m afraid the forum is gone forever. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ LOL J/K ๐Ÿ˜€

    It’s still down, which means they will not be able to move it. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  39. Edd says :

    Well it’s still not up, so it’s not looking good for a move today.

  40. Alice says :

    Hey, sorry, JohnF and EricFDiaz – your comments didn’t appear until today. JohnF – I’ll write to you about concealing your e-mail address, the option’s on your profile. And Eric, I feel lost too – how scary that withdrawal symptoms actually cause visible moood changes!! That’s something to write about for our Galaxyzooitis reports.

    Happy birthday Stealth Raptor!

    And “your comment is awaiting moderation” happens the first time everyone who posts here. After your first post has been checked, you should be fine. I don’t think you’re going to be deleted somehow. Especially not if you keep inviting us to awesome RAS stuff . . . just kidding.

    Grrrrrr – I’d really hoped that at least its reason for being down today would be that it was being moved. They said they expected to have it up again by Sunday afternoon! So I guess the damage was a lot more extensive than thought!

    Msn is also down, so I’m going to turn this computer off and on again.

    And if you want to know how my life’s going, I’m ill, which really annoys me. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  41. Kevin says :

    I am polishing the blue early-types paper…. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  42. Alice says :

    Go Kevin! ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

  43. Alice says :

    For those of you feeling helpless, people keep writing to me to send me this:

    Houston, TX (AHN) — An explosion Saturday evening at a Texas-based,
    privately held server hosting provider has caused server outages
    effecting 9,000 servers and 7,500 customers.

    According to The Planet’s website, at about 5 p.m. Saturday electrical
    gear shorted, creating an explosion and fire that knocked down three
    walls surrounding their electrical equipment room.

    No injuries were reported and no servers were damaged or lost.

    The Houston company, which provides servers for small and medium sized
    companies, said it has its entire support team working around the clock
    to get the servers back on line.

    Don’t know if that’s us, but if it is, it would explain a lot. Thanks to everyone for letting me know.

  44. Kevin says :

    I’m not sure that that’s us either, but let’s at least be happy nobody got injured!

  45. Alice says :

    For those of you who miss the Cafe and would really like a laugh, you can tell Chris should come to the Cafe too sometimes. See this post: http://chrislintott.net/2008/06/02/aas-day-1/

    I agree, Eric, he sounds like he’s having a lovely time. Sorry to hear you couldn’t make it. Here’s to the next one!

    Don’t forget to go on Astronomy Picture of the Day, people. It’s something to do, anyway: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

    And if you’re feeling miserable without asteroids, there’s always this: http://www.play.vg/games/4-Asteroids.html

    (Admin – if you want to remove that link I have no problem with that – it’s a link to an ancient 90s games site, but Asteroids was wonderful and I have the feeling a lot of zooites would find it fun . . . nothing dodgy on that site that I have encountered!)

  46. Alice says :

    Hey, my last comment never appeared. Have we run out of room?

  47. Kevin says :

    Odd?? Let me check in the moderation queue…

  48. Kevin says :

    Nope, seems fine… give it a minute?

  49. Alice says :

    Oh, I expect I pressed the wrong button or tried to submit it in the wrong tab or something! ๐Ÿ˜€ Never mind, it was quite a silly one, just some recommendations of what to do while we’re bored . . .

    Well here they are again . . .

    If anyone misses asteroids too desperately I found an ancient game about them: http://www.play.vg/games/4-Asteroids.html. (Feel free to remove this bit if you like, Kevin or anyone else. I’ve been through the site and I don’t think it’s dodgy but even so.)

    And http://www.chrislintott.net is a good read – although Chris should come to the cafe more often to talk about food with us. Sorry you couldn’t make it, Eric. Here’s to next one, eh? It sounds like a great trip Chris is having. Keep us posted, Chris!

    And don’t forget to keep checking Astronomy Picture of the Day! http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

  50. Alice says :

    OK, I just rewrote it, and that one never appeared either. Please remove the first one if both appear later! (galaxy zoo blushing icon!)

  51. Hanny says :

    Hey, there are indeed more messages today here then there were yesterday (I mean in between, very strange). Anyway, I knew about the crash, but I was wondering if it was still down because of the move or that it never came back. I get a different error now, so maybe that’s good news. Anyway, hope to see you all soon! ๐Ÿ˜‰

  52. Kevin says :

    Hi Hanny, that’s because people posted, but if it was their first post, a mod had to approve them. Once approved, all their posts appeared.

  53. Infinity says :

    Oh well, now I know about this place. I think we have time for tea, whilst they fix the problem. Kettle’s on ๐Ÿ™‚

  54. Kevin says :

    Hi infinity!

  55. Infinity says :

    Hey Kevin, I have done so much more work with the forum offline! but of course I miss it infinitely ๐Ÿ™‚

  56. Hanny says :

    Thanks Kevin! ๐Ÿ˜‰ And me too Infie!

  57. Alice says :

    Kevin, don’t forget to use me as a proofreader for your blue elliptical paper if you want to. In Paper No. 3, somebody wrote “there” when they meant “their”! ๐Ÿ˜€ We all want the highest possible standards, don’t we? ๐Ÿ˜€

    (I keep saying this . . .)

  58. Alice says :

    I wonder how many comments we’ll have here by the time the forum is up and running again? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  59. Infinity says :

    Who knows, but I fell like a newbie again ๐Ÿ™‚

  60. graham dungworth says :

    I was away for most of the weekend and didn’t understand the gravity of the situation until this morning. Heart felt sympathies to you all , in particular to Eric and Alice.

    That was some explosion! I read that the tested generator supplies up to 2 megawatts for 900 plus servers!

    Could be a long job if Texan health and safety regulations are similar to those here in the UK.
    Meanwhile I’ll carry on classifying mergers lol.

  61. graham dungworth says :

    It could indeed be a long job. There’s an audio broadcast from the CEO of the planet company here-
    [audio src="http://service-update.theplanet.com/Erwin-msg6-2-08.wav" /]
    with copious praise for the 80 or more stalwarts, several of whom he quotes, who are acting beyond the call of duty to bring our servers home.

    It sounds reminiscent of the Apollo 13 disaster but this one blew out four walls. Forgive my sarcasm- but the CEO’s tale is a magnificent example of embellishment of

    Explosion injures 800 servers. Many feared killed.
    Rescue attempt continues, further news expected hourly.

  62. Edd says :

    The server’s not quite on its feet yet. We’ve also redirected the DNS to the new server although that change will take some time to propagate. You may soon find you get a nice message telling you the forum is offline rather than your browser complaining though, and hopefully we’ll get the move to the new server done ASAP.

  63. Hanny says :

    Right, now it says “FORBIDDEN” instead of ‘something wrong with the server’, very NICE! :p But as long as you say it’s promissing, it’s probably fine… ๐Ÿ˜‰

  64. Edd says :

    Thanks to Hanny for helping me do some preliminary debugging I’d not been able to test until now.

  65. Hanny says :

    Yay Edd, I have no idea how you just did that, but this new message is indeed nice and promising and all! ๐Ÿ˜€

  66. Hanny says :

    Oh right, just seen your message, erm… well, my pleasure (she said having no idea what it was she’d done then except for clicking on some things… :p)

    Hey and Edd, I think your post is now the one with the most replies! ๐Ÿ˜€

  67. EricFDiaz says :

    I listened to the recording made by the CEO of the Planet that was provided by Graham, and all I can say is that I am grateful that no one was injured or killed in what sounds like a catastrophic electrical explosion. Thank goodness for the one young man who was late doing his rounds because he was waiting on a customer. Equipment can be replaced. A human life cannot.

  68. EricFDiaz says :

    I would say that 68 replies, including this one, puts Edd’s post over the top! ๐Ÿ˜€

  69. Infinity says :

    Well now Alice has lost her internet access and so sends her love… well at least the mobile’s still working!

  70. EricFDiaz says :

    I’m pleased to hear that Kevin is putting the final touches on the blue early-types paper. That deserves a big grin. : D I’ve been looking forward to reading that paper for quite some time. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  71. EricFDiaz says :

    Big grin===> ๐Ÿ˜€

  72. Jules says :

    LOL! 66 comments!
    Well that was some server outage. What a headache to repair and salvage. Only just found this blog entry – and i’m sure I checked yesterday….. It seems logging on to the forum has become a regular part of all our lives and we’re all missing it. (Eric – take a deep breath…..and relax…… there – feel better?)

    So “Hi” to everbody. Good luck to teh techies and meanwhile min’e with minl adn no sugar!!

    And – does everyone else have smilies to press on the blog? I don’t :0(

  73. EricFDiaz says :

    Poor Alice ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    She just has the worst luck with her ISP.

  74. Jules says :

    And that should have read mine’s with milk and no sugar….Must read before pressing “send”.

  75. EricFDiaz says :

    Yes, thanks, Jules….much better. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  76. Infinity says :

    Alice back online, Hi Jules ๐Ÿ™‚

  77. Alice says :

    Hello everyone, Internet connection back all of a sudden, and excuse the two long posts earlier with the silly links which it took the blog a while to post!

    When I find a proper job and my own place to live I will be the one choosing an Internet connection, and I will be very picky indeed! ๐Ÿ˜€

  78. EricFDiaz says :

    Welcome back, Alice! ๐Ÿ™‚

  79. Alice says :

    Thanks! :-* (Let’s see if the Galaxy Zoo Kissing Smiley works . . .)

    Smilies: I’ll show you the ones I’ve found – adding spaces:

    : )
    ; )
    : D
    : o

    And I much prefer the cute Zoo ones. ๐Ÿ˜›

    (Let’s see if that works, too!)

  80. Alice says :

    Yuck. A smiley with a red mouth. And the kiss one doesn’t work. What about without the hyphen . . . :*

  81. Alice says :

    Nope ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    (I will now go stand in the corner and apologise for cluttering up the blog)

  82. Jules says :

    Hi Inf – so where are people finding the smilies? I assume they are external to the blog. Curious.

  83. Alice says :

    They’re automatic, Jules. (I know my name isn’t Inf but never mind. ;)) There is also : (

  84. Jules says :

    Hmmm…Ok….is it just me? I see the occasional proper yellow smiley but most appear as ordinary text smilies. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  85. Jules says :

    Yay! Where did that come from???

    Goes off to practice…
    Sorry everybody! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

  86. Alice says :

    Morning Pluk ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ˜†

  87. pluk says :

    morning ๐Ÿ˜‰

  88. Jules says :

    8)

  89. EricFDiaz says :

    Oh brother! rolleyes ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜‰

  90. EricFDiaz says :

    :mrgreen: ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜ฅ ๐Ÿ˜ˆ 8) see what happens to citizen scientists when they have too much time on their hands? ๐Ÿ˜†

  91. Adam Primus says :

    Now this is a fine to-do! I go away for a little while (both my PC & I caught viruses – or should that be virii?) & when we come back there’s no Forum to come back to! Well a big hello to everyone anyway… ๐Ÿ™‚

  92. Adam Primus says :

    p.s. …at least here you will be spared my animated gifs…:lol:

  93. Anonymous says :

    ๐Ÿ˜‰

  94. Jules says :

    LOL ๐Ÿ˜† Hi Adam!

    Re Pluk’s smileys – not entirely sure about the significance of Mr Green by the way…. :mrgreen:

  95. Edd says :

    Viruses. Not virii ๐Ÿ™‚ Pet peeve of mine

  96. Alice says :

    Speaking of unusual plurals (fish and sheep being the obvious), here is a quote from the brilliant Tom Lehrer:

    “Some of us used to wander over to the… I believe it was called the . . . *stadium*, to see if anything might be going on over there. – And one did come to realize that the football fight songs that one hears in comparable . . . *stadia* . . . have a tendency to be somewhat uncouth . . .”

    Missing the Zoo. It’s quite disturbing to reflect upon the cumulative emotional attachment to it, if you add up all these citizen scientists . . . Here’s to the people working on mending the server, and the Cafe’s safe return!

  97. John Fairweather says :

    Some Information on the explosion at the Planet Data Centre.

    An example of how not to implement a Data Storage system –

    http://blog.statcounter.com/?p=91

    It might be an idea to move the Galaxy Zoo Servers elsewhere.

  98. pluk says :

    neither am I Jules, just the biggest grin available ๐Ÿ˜‰

  99. graham dungworth says :

    I would hate to throw an emoticon into the works but does anyone know how much power it takes to maintain a rapidly expanding archive?

    For instance, were one to select some random historical date, only several months distant, for some certain thread, one would expect to trawl through many necessary images that consume gigabytes of data.
    Interspaced of course, there would be myriads of emoticons ๐Ÿ˜‰ and short blog responses such as “good morning” or even “morning” , “enjoy your coffee” or “stone me the sun has arisen again”.
    Somewhere some server presumably mindlessly stores these blog responses, a watt here, an extra watt there, endless watts to blogclutter the web.

    Somewhere we misled the gravity of the situation. It was actually 9000 servers that were denied power. Globally, many of us had been connected to the second floor of a single office block, through a single mighty conduit that takes or tried to take 2 megawatts of power. Had the building burnt down the servers would have been frazzled and those precious archives of clutter lost forever. Why wasn’t there backup at several locations? Why put the all the eggs in one basket? Economics no doubt. How many servers operate globally?

    Where’s the server that archives these numerous responses to Edd’s original notification? What is the annual consumption of power to maintain this blog and the forum? I ‘d like to hear that these emoticons are powered by renewable energy. 2 megawatts is one large wind turbine output, assuming the wind blows which is about once every five days at my locale. I feel a twinge of shame about my own blog clutter.

  100. Alice says :

    I remember there was somebody on the forum whose avatar was a video of a walking penguin or something, and he posted bouncing blue smilies. If anyone can find that post I’d love to see them again and filch them for msn . . .

  101. Alice says :

    Graham, your post didn’t show up until I’d posted mine. Good point . . . I have no idea what the answers are and it’s so easy to forget things like that. Anyone know? Is this something we should be worrying about?

  102. Edd says :

    The server this is on and the forums are moving to is largely my responsibility. It has reasonable backup policies – it won’t survive a major fire or something but the data isn’t worth the expense of regular offsite backup policies.

    The power it takes? Negligible overhead over the other roles the machine in question has. Text takes very little space. Most of the commenters’ mp3 collections will individually be far larger than the space taken by the forum and blog combined.

    If you want to try to be efficient go ahead, but the place to start trying to be efficient is on processor and storage intensive content. Which blog and forum comments are not.

  103. Jules says :

    That’s actually good to know Edd. Would hate to be guilty of irresponsibly using resources.

  104. Alice says :

    A relief to me, too. I’d love to travel, but besides the cost is the CO2. We have to feel guilty for eating, drinking, shopping (not that I like shopping but . . .), using transport . . . please don’t let us have to worry about how to talk to each other in a guilt-free way, too!

    Let’s face it, if it wasn’t for people we wouldn’t be finding out all the science anyway. If idiotic chat helps make the world go round, I’m fine with that. ๐Ÿ™‚

  105. graham dungworth says :

    I recollect that there was an unautographed blog reference, somewhere some time ago, to a worried guy called Malthus who predicted that while servers would populate according to a geometric progression, the energy sources that fed them would grow only arithmetically.

    Many thought he was nuts ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    Eventually he predicted that they or their food sources would frazzle leaving an impoverished few servers surviving in caves with immediate access to flowing brooks viz http://www.otherpower.com and spare copper wire, wheel hub discs and hieroglyph dictionaries.

    Finally, beyond redemption, he predicted that world temperatures would rise- but hell copper has a high melting point, so what to the extra watt. He’s rumoured to be still out there, somewhere. I visit a lot of caves in windy mountainess areas, in proximity to shady glens, verdant pastures and vibrant brooks, always asking if anyone has seen him, many an hermit’s occasional tale of desertification but alas no hint of Malthus anywhere.
    The morale I guess is always to sign and date(autograph) your blog.
    Graham 03 June 2008

  106. Alice says :

    JohnF is trying to post, but his posts aren’t showing. I bet this blog is playing a trick on him and it will show later, just like with my two long posts with the silly links I posted earlier (anything to embarrass the mod, eh, computer?). However, not wanting to leave our RAS friend out, here is JohnF’s intended post:

    “Some information on the explosion at the Planet Data Centre.

    An example of how not to implement a Data Storage system –

    http://blog.statcounter.com/?p=91

    Now let’s go see what that might be . . .

  107. sysboy says :

    I thought they handled the disaster pretty well. Think about the numbers involved, 9000 servers. If one takes 5 mins to boot that’s 750 hours just in boots time and that’s if they all come up cleanly.

    Replacing the power systems to run 9000 servers and their air-conditioning is not trivial, generators don’t grow on trees, especially on a Saturday night/Sunday morning ๐Ÿ™‚

  108. graham dungworth says :

    That was an interesting read Alice =[ ,that has really opened the eyes of the big users.

    I accept that written text requires minimal data storage but there’s a lot of negligible stuff that grows geometrically, but it ignores server mass and numerosity that has to be manufactured and recycled in plastic bags. Servers, their longevity and data storage efficiency do improve with time, namely that it better equips them for survival, but that ancient blogger did acknowledge it at the time. Alfred Wallace referred to it in passing in his Letter from Ternate
    http://www.wku.edu/~smithch/wallace/S043.htm
    Ten pages or so that changed the world.

    Server population, regardless of the magnitude of data storage, will grow according to the magnitude and sustainability of its energy sources. As Wallace said ” a sustainable population is a miserable population; an unending struggle to barely satiate its hunger”. The struggle for existence; hard is the lesson to live, easier the lesson how to die.
    My fear is that
    http://www.theplanet.com/
    may not survive and we all bare some guilt that lame prose cannot hide, nor the 300watt my hardware consumes while I write.
    I’ll switch off now to save power. No offence intended Alice; write on- I” watch TV a while.
    Goodnight

  109. FermatsBrother says :

    [quote]from Edd Update: Forum is still down unfortunately, …[/qoute]
    Hi Edd – Any chance of dating your updates ?
    Hi everybodies !!
    FB

  110. Alice says :

    Hello Fermats Brother! Btw did I tell you I was looking up Fermats Brother on the Internet? ๐Ÿ™‚

    Anyone else still awake?

    Anyone got the kettle on? ๐Ÿ˜€ ???

  111. Aether says :

    Hello everyone. Sorry I haven’t been on in a while, exams are looming!!!

    In other news, and because I want to show off (Sorries) its a new picture of me, that I think looks good:

    [url]http://s243.photobucket.com/albums/ff296/welshwrangler/Fortress%20Wales%202008/?action=view&current=IMG_2806a.jpg[/url]

  112. EricFDiaz says :

    Hi Edd,

    Is the old server up and running, and have you started transferring the forum data to the new server? Sorry for my impatience. :mrgreen: ๐Ÿ˜† :8):

    Eric

  113. EricFDiaz says :

    8)

  114. elizabeth siegel says :

    ok everyone take a chill pill!!! They are working on it, I am sure. Just remember you all had a life before galaxy zoo……….. Miss talking or what ever with all of you. See you on the flip side.

  115. EricFDiaz says :

    I already took a chill pill. In fact, I took three! They didn’t work! If the forum isn’t going to be up until let’s say Sunday, then I wish someone would say so. Then I wouldn’t feel the need to keep coming back here to see what’s going on.

    The forum is more than just a place to hang out and socialize. It’s also a place where a lot of teaching and learning is done. And, some of us have ongoing projects that we’re working on that are important to us. And, now all of a sudden we are cut off from our work without any idea when we will have access to it. I’m sorry, but that is extremely frustrating. ๐Ÿ˜

  116. Hanny says :

    ๐Ÿ˜€ a chill pill! LOL Liz!

  117. Stealth Raptor says :

    It will get done when it get’s done. Preferably soon, but it doesnt sound like it will be backup soon. Oh well, this is a fun temporary forum anyway. 8)

  118. Infinity says :

    Nice image on APOD today of Discovery chasing the ISS. Roll over the image to identify what’s what…

    http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080604.html

    Oh and good morning to all who have found this temporary cafe ๐Ÿ™‚

  119. Caro says :

    So this is where you all are. Greetings. ๐Ÿ˜€

  120. pluk says :

    [b]hi![/b]

  121. pluk says :

    :mrgreen: ๐Ÿ˜Ž

  122. pluk says :

    italic
    bold
    green

    1/11/2
    2/12/2

  123. EricFDiaz says :

    Thanks for today’s update, Edd. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  124. Alice says :

    I’ve just been let go from my current temping job as everyone is coming back from their holidays tomorrow. I thought I’d got it until the end of this week at least. I am going to sulk, and probably intend to go walking in Cornwall tomorrow and then find it’s pouring with rain and/or get up too late.

    I want a fancy coffee or something. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ ๐Ÿ˜ฆ ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  125. Alice says :

    Hey . . . you know one thing I really miss?

    [color=red]Warning: while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post. [/color]

    Really.

  126. Jules says :

    Evening all. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Still here then? Oh well – little we can do but wait for news. I can see it must be extra frustrating for you if you had work to do via the forum threads Eric – anything exciting?

    Hope a new job comes your way soon Alice… ๐Ÿ™‚

  127. sysboy says :

    That’s not good news about your job ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    Here’s some coffee (although it might not work without some fixed fonts)

    ((
    ))
    | |
    (| |
    |____|

  128. sysboy says :

    Ahhh, stripped of my spaces!

  129. pluk says :

    evening all

  130. Alice says :

    Hi everyone. Hey, I think I can picture what you were trying to do with the coffee, sysboy. Tee hee hee. ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

    Having an argument with our kitchen light at the moment, it seems to think it’s running a disco . . .

  131. Jules says :

    What is it with you and lights? ๐Ÿ’ก
    Didn’t you have a similar problem in your old house?

    You could always stick to standard candles…

  132. Alice says :

    Heheh ๐Ÿ˜€ I think wherever I go, disaster strikes – or maybe it’s part of the package for the kind of rent I can pay!

    Anyway, the landlord has agreed to come and look at it!

    How’s everyone’s evening? This just isn’t a substitute for the Cafe. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ So I think I ought to put some jokes up or something.

    “Doctor, doctor, I’ve got a ringing in my ears.”
    “Don’t answer!”

    “Doctor, doctor, I’ve hurt my arm in several places.”
    “Well, don’t go to them any more.”

    “Doctor, doctor, I feel like a pack of cards.”
    “I’ll deal with you later!”

    “Doctor, doctor, I feel like a spoon.”
    “OK. Sit down there and don’t stir!”

    “Doctor, doctor, I feel terrible.”
    “What are the symptons?”
    “A cartoon with yellow people in it!”

    For Infinity and Hanny:
    “Doctor, doctor, I keep seeing Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck and Cinderella all over the place.”
    “I see, and how long have you been having these Disney spells?”

    To take the biscuit:
    “Doctor, doctor, I keep thinking I’m a packet of savoury biscuits!”
    “Oh, no. You’re crackers!”

    And finally . . .
    “Doctor, doctor, I think I might need glasses.”
    “You certainly do. This is a garage.”

  133. John Fairweather says :

    How about the blind/blind man joke?

  134. Caro says :

    For Alice: a spectacularly bad doctor joke.

    “Doctor, doctor, there’s an invisible man in the waiting room.”

    “Tell him I can’t see him.”

  135. John Fairweather says :

    The daily e-mail from BBC2’s Newsnight, carry jokes ‘fit for eleven year olds’.

  136. Edd says :

    I was not going to create a temporary forum as I didn’t want confusion over continuity and what posts would be retained. But clearly there’s a need to have somewhere to put the kettle over the weekend! Link will be added to the downtime message on the forum URL.

  137. FermatsBrother says :

    Just in case you don’t know, one way to overcome withdrawal symptoms, is to go directly to SDSS and use the Navigate option in DR6.

    http://cas.sdss.org/astro/en/tools/explore/

    You move around (using N, E, S & W), select objects & recenter them, and if you need the ObjId, right-click the “Explore” button on the right-hand side, then copy/paste and store ready for the Forums’ return.

    Another alternative is to use Sky-Map (in SDSS mode); it’s easier to navigate (press/pull)and dec & ra can be obtained
    in hours/min/sec & degrees/min/sec. These values can be inserted directly into the DR6 search boxes, which automatically convert to decimal degrees.
    (eg 11:59:13 converts to 179.8043)

    http://www.sky-map.org/?ra=11.5418&de=47.1032&zoom=9&img_source=SDSS
    Cheers – FB

  138. AlexandredOr says :

    Hi everybody !
    So there is still life in the black, empty and cold Universe ??.. ๐Ÿ™‚
    I appreciate the “doctor’s jokes” when I understand them… I’ll try to send some news doctor’s jokes I know. Like : “(by phone) – Doctor, Doctor ! I have been knifed ! – Oh my God ! Where ? – In Seaside Avenue..”
    Glad to be here…
    AlexandredOr.

  139. Alice says :

    Hi folks! Well you know my luck when machines come into it; I can’t get onto the forum. If anyone knows how to contact my Internet company to complain that the DNS server is out of date (I think that was what Edd said, but I’m probably wrong), do tell me! The files I need to create to get on do not exist on my brand new computer! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    In the meantime I am dying of loneliness and jealousy of you all, so if you have any spare tea going, do please drop me an e-mail or add me to your msn contacts list to catch up! Miss you lots, and have nearly 2 pages of galaxies ready to search for on the forum when it comes back up again.

  140. John Fairweather says :

    In March, one of my ISPs was bought out by another company, who put all my data (at a cut-off point) on to their new ISP, but didn’t tell me. So, all my ‘customers’ were viewing data up to this cut-off point (early March) and I was puttimg data on to the old Server (end of March) – never the twain met. It took me a few days to work out what was going on.

  141. weezerd says :

    Well hello boys!!

    …and girls too

    (not to overlook Infinity ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

    It’s good to figure out how to find you all.
    Looking forward now to Sunday or later when normal service can resume.

    Stay cool and merge away…

  142. pluk says :

    Alice, if it really is a DNS problem. (I’m sure Edd has found ways to find this out for you), the really desperate could try the following:

    * Locate a file called “hosts” on your pc. A likely spot would be “C:WINDOWSsystem32driversetchosts”

    * try to open it, and then select “notepad” from the list of applications that’s presented to you as a result, then press the “OK” button.

    * In the opened file, go to the last line, and add a new one. Insert “148.197,8,7 http://www.galaxyzooforum.org” there.

    * save.

    * Can you visit the tempforum now?

  143. pluk says :

    Aargh major typo… no comma’s there, the line would have to read:

    148.197.8.7 http://www.galaxyzooforum.org

  144. Alice says :

    Thanks very much for those messages Pluk. I’m on now. Hope nobody else had to suffer such a delay. It’s a lovely little temporary forum! Hope to see you there!

  145. Stealth Raptor says :

    I am having trouble getting on. I have had it send me activation emails, but none are getting through, and my filter isnt even on. Can anyone help with this?

  146. AlexandredOr says :

    Oh oh… Now it’s the Galaxyzoo homepage that is down… Very strange… :-/

  147. AlexandredOr says :

    Homepage is back !
    :-))
    But forum still out…
    :-((

  148. Alice says :

    AlexandredOr – have you managed to access the temporary forum yet? Go to http://www.galaxyzooforum.org and you’ll see a link from Edd. Hope to see you there soon . . .

  149. AlexandredOr says :

    Dear Alice,
    No I can’t go on the temporary forum, because i can’t login :”username unknown” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    What can I do ??

  150. Alice says :

    Sorry, I didn’t see this message until you’d already done it. Yes – you need to register again as it’s not the same forum!

    So glad you got there anyway.

  151. Edd says :

    Stealth Raptor – your email server is not accepting our emails. You might want to contact your ISP to resolve it.

  152. Xander says :

    DRAT! Forum’s down. Now what to do? Waitaminiute. What does Secret Govt. Weapons .com do? One way to find out…

    3 months later….

    Xander: But how was I supposed to know I’d wipe out half of North Dakota?

  153. tony says :

    http://cas.sdss.org/astro/en/tools/explore/obj.asp?id=587724650868899921

    thought this looked cool two stars very close to each other and look to be the same distance from us

  154. Jerzy1000 says :

    Witam wszystkich, a zwlaszcza tych, ktรณrzy po polsku gadaja

  155. Alessandro says :

    588009368014749934

    This Picture is strange, for me, and for you?

    Bye

  156. Stealth Raptor says :

    I will wait for the old site to come back up. LEave some tea for me ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  157. Stealth Raptor says :

    Since i am not able to get onto the forum, I will post it here-The voorwerp made it onto the Astronomy Picture of the Day. Way to go!

  158. Holy balls says :

    http://cas.sdss.org/astro/en/tools/explore/obj.asp?id=587727214959001759

    its all grey and strange, i would post on forum but you aren’t there.

  159. fluffyporcupine says :

    Hi Holy balls, you’ve got a pretty star there. its grey from the bias testing. We do have a temporary forum, http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/index.php or got to the old site and click on the link in Edd’s message. Hope you manage to find us ๐Ÿ™‚

  160. Hofi says :

    Hi,

    I have registered for Galaxy Zoo. But when I try to LogIn here, it failed… no true UserName..

    lg
    TH

  161. sachin says :

    I really enjoyed with galaxy ,

  162. Gabor Toth says :

    Hello everybody!
    I think i find a supernova in a galaxy’s picture, what should i do, have the galaxyzoo an e-mail where i can send the pic, or the number of the picture? :S

  163. gandom says :

    how can i member in this site? please get me the mail.

  164. Kuruni says :

    I want chocolate and i want it now!

    And while analyzing galaxies i found one with something interesting 587725818038124668 not sure what that white line crossing it really is.

  165. 372020751 says :

    I’m a Chinese student.I read about this “Galaxy Zoo” project on a Chinese science website.It is a great honor for me to take part and make contributions to our human’s no boundary science explore.

  166. Astestinuecuri says :

    Hi. I on numerous occasions be familiar with this forum. This is the head together unequivocal to ask a query.
    How numberless in this forum are references progressive behind, knavish users?
    Can I worthiness all the advice that there is?

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