Taking Citizen Science Seriously
Today’s post is from forum member Waveney who is embarking on his own science project:
Three years ago I stumbled upon the Zoo, started clicking, wandered into the forum and made friends. Then there was a request by Chris on the forum for people to check images for mergers, for which I wrote a website in 4 hours (including leaning SQL). This software with modifications has been used for all three Pea hunts, the Voorwerpje hunting, a few private hunts and for the Irregulars Project.
A couple of years ago Kevin asked for ideas for a student project. Several ideas were made, including the irregulars. After the student went on to do something else (Peas), Jules and I carried on talking. As the Zoo was quiet (between Mergers finishing and Zoo2 starting), we launched our own project to categorise the irregular galaxies in the forum topic. This was endorsed by Chris, who initially acted as the project’s supervisor.
There has been a lot of work on the big impressive ellipticals and spirals, on mergers and detailed studies on a few nearby irregulars. However there has not been a large scale quantitative study of them. The project aims to fill that gap. We are using data originally collected by the Forum, not used by any of the Zookeepers so are not treading on anybody’s toes.
What are irregulars?
These are the galaxies that don’t fit into any other category. They are not elliptical, they are not spiral, they are not involved in a merger. In general they are small, numerous and most are blue with star forming regions. Are they one homogenous group or is their more than one type? Are their old irregulars? Where are they? How do they compare with other galaxies? These are just a few of the questions the project is looking at.
How I started the project:
We started with the galaxies reported in the irregular topic on the forum, added those from a few related topics and started. Alice joined us in a supporting role and Aida came on board finding lots of other candidates, others have contributed lists and now the potential list is nearly 20,000 strong. I have managed the clicking on this in three data sets, the first 3,000 was the early reported – bright ones, then next 2,500 continued with the list in order of reported. However in the third set (nearing completion) I brought forward all those with spectra, so it contains 1500 ordinary candidates and another 2000 with spectra.
The website was setup (Note this has an independent login from the rest of the Zooniverse). It asks 10 questions about each image: is it an irregular, the clarity of the image, bright blue blobs, apparent proximity to other galaxies, appearance of any core, bar, arms or spiral structure.
What has been done so far:
Jules has looked at their 2D distribution across the sky and estimated the number that are too faint for SDSS to have taken their spectra. I have already studied the colour properties of irregular galaxies, their metallicity, masses and star-forming rates, hunted for AGNs (none found so far in irregulars), the equivalent width of the [OIII] 5007Å line in the same way that the Peas were analysed and the non-applicability of Photo Z algorithms for estimating Z without spectra to irregulars. I am currently studying galaxy density around irregulars (in 3D) and am looking for clusters of irregulars. I have not yet used the sub classification of the irregulars, just the “is it an irregular property” – this will come.
The project went rather quiet last year – I was terribly over worked and ended up with no spare time, this has changed recently and I have gone back and started looking again at the work we have done and thinking how to take it further. What is being found should be published – how does one do it? When the project had Chris as a supervisor the route was clear, I need to work with somebody in academia so I can present results, bounce ideas off, get ideas from and work with. Relying on the spare time of Zookeepers is not a satisfactory option – why not pay for the time. Then I thought back to a throwaway comment of Chris a year or so ago that “I had done half a PhD” – I recognise this means I have done 10%, but it got me thinking – why not do it properly. I don’t want to do this full time, I have a very full time job – but could I do it part time. Does the Open University do part time PhDs – a quick web search yes it does…
So I have signed up to take a part time PhD at the Open University on the irregulars. This will take several years, I will fund it myself. I am not totally new to doing formal research, in my professional life I had a lot to do with telecoms research: Proposing, taking part in, managing and cancelling many projects both company and EU funded at research houses and Universities, covering everything from social science through home networks to optical switching. I have even been on the other side of the table reviewing a couple of PhDs.
At this point I have applied, have a supervisor, met them once. Chris and Bill are my referees. The formal interview is in March and the formal start of the PhD is in September. However I am working hard looking at your results, reading, analysing, thinking and writing this.
I have created a blog on the forum to report day to day progress.
P.S. I could use a few more clicks.
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That’s great news waveney – I am so glad that you have decided to do this. I enjoyed the little bit of data analysis I did on morphology /redshift , mapping and starting to look at the environment of irregulars but the project clearly needs someone to take it in hand now. So well done. Good luck. And I look forward to reading your progress!
Congratulations, Waveney and the best of luck with your PhD pursuit. Perhaps you are really going to write a book as I suggested at the Browsea I meet-up in May, 2009.. Meanwhile,I will do some clicking in support .
I am so proud of you dear Richard!!!
Good luck Richard, and please do keep us up to date on what you are up to!
Good on you, Waveney, congratulations!
Well done Waveney!
I cannot wait to hear that our computer genius Waveney has become Doctor Proctor and found out a PhD’s worth of amazing things 🙂
Waveney, you are a star – a Wolf-Rayet super hot one. I just think that’s so coo. mixing my terms somehwat. One thought though in the interim. If you were a member or even a Fellow of fthe RAS (not as hard as it sounds), surely you could get a paper in the MN? Dunno.. worth asking?
This is great news indeed. I was wondering the previous comment sounds sort of responsible to get a paper published or maybe that in conjunction with having a professional astronomer sponsor the paper? PS. I’ll do my bit by adding a few clicks.
I will be publishing papers. I have two planned at present from work already done. In the future with more analysis from the results and comparisons across other wavelengths using other databases more will follow.
Thankyou to everybody who contributes clicks, I have 88,000 so far another 3000 will give me the data set I will focus on.
Congratulations Waveny. This is a wonderful example of what happens when we pursue a passion. Keep us in your loop!